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 Post subject: Re: American Torchwood (and maybe Who?)
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:03 pm 
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RTD was too busy with other projects to ride herd on them, which is too bad. You can see he's just better at cheesy fun and drama than the rest of them :mrgreen:
It's true... Despite the things I'd like to forget about some of his scripts, he does know how to write a plot twist and a joke both. :)

*crosses fingers for the quality of any upcoming TW project*

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 Post subject: Re: American Torchwood (and maybe Who?)
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:31 pm 
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It's true, though - American tv is ridiculously homophobic. And not that it's necessarily something I look for in a show, but Jack's "omnisexuality" is kind of a key part of his character. I suppose they could do the show without Jack, but "Torchwood" without Jack is just... wrong. Even more wrong than putting it on American tv.


Don't get me wrong, the main reason I stopped watching Torchwood was because I was sick of the omnisexuality being thrust into my face. Yes, they are all bisexual and horny. I get it. Bring on the aliens and stories please!

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 Post subject: Re: American Torchwood (and maybe Who?)
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:49 pm 
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Reading this proposal for "Torchwood:United States", reminds me too much like the Men In Black franchise for my liking, & as such, I suspect that it'll lose viewers, in a similar way to the U.S version of Life On Mars, where I suspect the viewers that did not turn off in droves, were viewers of the U.K original series on BBC America...

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 Post subject: Re: American Torchwood (and maybe Who?)
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:53 pm 
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Don't get me wrong, the main reason I stopped watching Torchwood was because I was sick of the omnisexuality being thrust into my face. Yes, they are all bisexual and horny. I get it. Bring on the aliens and stories please!
Well, yeah, as M'reen said before, it's much better when there's actual plot. I just don't want an American network to whitewash the whole thing so much that the character is unrecognizable. Even just the little "hello" bits are Character (as the Doctor said in Utopia, "For you, saying 'hello' is flirting!").

The thing is, I'm having visions of Jack being morphed into the stereotypical Hollywood leading man, with the requisite bimbo-of-the-week and making sure there's no hunk-of-the-week!

*shrug* I certainly don't mind toning down the sex aspect of TW; I just don't want Jack to be metaphorically gelded, and thereby turned into a different character.

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 Post subject: Re: American Torchwood (and maybe Who?)
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:31 am 
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If RTD gets John Barrowman, I think we can take it for granted Jack Harkness will not be gelded <g>. And I doubt the bimbo of the week will always be a female bimbo - but lets face it, Jack does like to talk like he can always score the bimbo.

I think he'll just be more confined to flirting and stories about who he had in bed, like in Children of the Earth or the better eps before - and some of his crew may actually be straight instead of all being omni, but RTD and JB woudnt let them change Jack's basic nature.

Someone speculated he'd be more like Captain Jack in Doctor Who than Captain Jack in Torchwood (it's played two different ways - Captain Jack in DW is an Erroll Flynn omni flirt adventurer/con artist with a heroic nature, while Captain Jack in Torchwood is an omni sexed depressed screw up trying to be a hero)... but I'm okay with either Captain Jack and I think it has a chance of working out, no matter what happens, to be something better than the first year of Torchwood.


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 Post subject: Re: American Torchwood (and maybe Who?)
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:04 am 
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... and some of his crew may actually be straight instead of all being omni
I didn't think any of them were really bi... Ianto clearly stated that it was "just him" in CoE, and Gwen only went after that girl in Day One because of the super-pheromones. *shrug* A matter of interpretation, I suppose. Point taken, though. :wink: (Oh! Rats - I've just remembered Tosh's "indiscretion"... Your point is even more valid than I'd been thinking. Yikes...)
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but RTD and JB woudnt let them change Jack's basic nature.
I certainly hope not. If both of them are on the project, then yes, I think you're right.
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Someone speculated he be more like Captain Jack in Doctor Who than Captain Jack in Torchwood ... but I'm okay with either Captain Jack and I think it has a chance of working out, no matter what happens, to be something better than the first year of Torchwood.
I had thought of that, too. The Who-Jack is clearly more suited to current American mainstream tv than TW-Jack, but I like them both. And if RTD is in charge, I think we can be assured of a certain quality...

Here's another though I had about porting to American tv. Assuming we keep Barrowman as Jack, we lose the charm of a "foreign" accent by taking him out of Britain. I liked that quirk...

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 Post subject: Re: American Torchwood (and maybe Who?)
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:35 pm 
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Yes, but perhaps he'll stop saying "Eastrogen". :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: American Torchwood (and maybe Who?)
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Yes, but perhaps he'll stop saying "Eastrogen". :mrgreen:
Buahahahahaha! I thought that sounded really weird, too. :D

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Well, I saw the first ep, and it's not bad. One character is really really annoying, but I'll give him a chance to improve.


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 Post subject: Re: American Torchwood (and maybe Who?)
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M'reen: Thanks for not spoiling the 1st episode. It's not broadcast in the UK until Thursday 14th July at 9pm. Just so everyone knows.
Also, I don't see the need for a American version of Doctor Who when the British version seems to get more popular every year. American writers should come up with their own ideas instead of stealing popular British shows.

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 Post subject: Re: American Torchwood (and maybe Who?)
PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:36 pm 
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The idea wasn't to steal in this case, but expand the universe. Show different offices of Torchwood, and maybe someday different regenerations of the Doctor. It's many shows, all in one universe.


eta- still don't think RTD is interested in doing an American version of Doctor Who while the UK one is running. The suggestion that he might came from the writer of the article, in an effort to stir up some controversy, imho.

And no worries, I already created a thread for spoilers for Torchwood ep 1, in case folks want to talk about it.


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