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Ooh! I would love to see the Rani back! Of course, that means there would have to be a way to return the Time Lords for real, too...

Well, I was just googling about and saw this:

http://www.denofgeek.com/television/239 ... _rani.html

Of course it's rumor, and almost a year old, but wouldn't that be fun? I guess the Rani could have escaped out of the "bubble" when the Time Lords were just chit-chatting with the Doctor and Master and hidden herself before the rest were sent back.

A thought...

Well there was rumors of the Meddling Monk returning that have yet to happen. I suspect that some rumors are floated out to test the waters as well as to keep us guessing on the plot. The Lady in White in the last two specials had a strong feel of being the White Guardian and that was wrong. Boy did I ever have that wrong.

I'm sure at some point Moffat will find a way to let the Timelords be an influence again, somehow. They were always a powerful, pompous, dodgy group that made the Doctor have to be very very clever if he wanted to get away intact. Always a nice change of pace from 'There is no higher power, I have the last say' Doctor we've been dealing with.

Fortunately they've always been so impressed with themselves that it gave the Doctor a bit of room for flimflamming them.

As for RTD's comment about the identity of the woman - well, if RTD ever says anything is definitive about who she is, it's a sure sign it's not that. He loves to do things like that to fans just before an ep with the opposite of what he says is about to happen.

As for the rumors - well, fans have been having those rumors about various characters returning since before the first ep was penned. Its just what fans do.

Perhaps the woman in white was Ace. Since the plans were made in the classic series for her to hone her time sensitivity, and to have her enter one of the Time Lord Academies. If that did follow through than she could've become a Time Lady.

Okay, I finally found a reference to the Doctor's mother - a sci fi web news site unashamedly used the Daily Telegraph as a source. That's a bit like quoting the tabloids with alien abductions in them ... there might be some truth in an article they have, but it's usually the needle in the haystack. Claire Bloom did appear in the 2 part special, but you expect me to believe the Daily Telegraph is going to know what character she plays when the ep is written to leave it a mystery?

I wonder if they sell shares to the London bridge with subscriptions

I feel much better now... If she was identified in the Daily Telegraph, then we can all safely believe whatever we want.

Wait, the London Bridge is up for sale?! Sign me up!

Well, if it was reported in The Telegraph, it must be true

@WalksInEternity:


You mentioned that once before, and while it's certainly possible, I find it much less likely than the other identities that have been mentioned. For one thing, Ace's fate on Gallifrey is something that never made it anywhere near on-screen; to me, that makes it non-canon (of course, Mother and Wife fall in that category, too, though Wife has a few on-screen comments to back up her existence (and let's not go into River Song, please...)).

Another thing that makes the idea of Ace as Woman in White seem unlikely to me is the fact that the only Companion we've ever see return in NuWho is Sarah Jane, the single most popular Companion of all time. I just don't see them bringing back all sorts of classic Companions without a really good build-up...

Besides, I'm not sure why Ace would have the particular effect on the Doctor that the Woman in White did at the climax (or why she would have said she was lost)...

On a different note, I know that it's hard to get tone across in print, so I want you to know that I'm not trying to pick on a new poster or anything. I thought you'd just appreciate a response, since you'd mentioned Ace a couple of times, and this is what I've come up with as I thought about it.

So welcome into the fray, wrenweyland!

According to mrfranklin and M'reen the only thing we can consider canon is the classic serial, the Movie, and the series (unless BBC decides to change its mind yet again about the audio adventures. I'll have to ask the Cadmium 2 trio to see if they have any verifiable proof.) I am sorry I failed to respond to Ace as a possibility. I should have replied but considering I know nothing of her fate after Survival, I doubt I could have really made a good and thought out opinion on this.

I think that any decision to bring another classic companion back might have been kept under the radar. What greater surprise for the fans could we have had with a surprise return. The fact that the Doctor never said anything does make me lean away from the Lady in White being Ace. What could have happened to Ace that he would have kept quiet like that?

Let's consider something from the season 4 Davros return. Quoting from the Synopsis on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stolen_Earth
Dalek Caan somehow found a way to enter the Time War and perhaps that created a tiny hole or break in this time-lock. This sounds like the perfect culprit for any Time Lord, or anything else involved on any side of the conflict, to make an appearance in the future.

Unlike my thoughts on the Guardians being involved in the End of Time, I believe this is a strong and highly likely reason to be used should such events transpire in the series I feel very comfortable in saying this

I'm all into this "Caan opened a way out of the Time War" idea.
You all know what Renn- Reann- umm.. what Madame de Pompadour said: "A door once opened may be crossed through in either direction."
Why can't this apply to the "door" Caan must have made while rescuing Davros?

I thought that Ace might've been a possibility because of the fact that the 7th Doctor seemed to have an almost Fatherly/Grandfatherly love for her. She's the only companion I know of that had a pet name for him, and I don't mean Susan calling him Grandfather. Also considering what her planned future was, on the show. The Doctor gave the impression of having his own heart(s) broken the one time I remember him breaking her faith and trust in him. When her faith in him was stopping those vampire things from advancing.

On the Ace idea, I think we need to consider that the idea of her becoming a Time Lord/Lady was never actually carried out. I think it was part of the whole "Cartmel Masterplan" which also included Looming and the Doctor being half-human. Both of these have been denied, so I personnaly assume that Ace was never part of the Academy. It also seems unlikly that anyone but a Gallifreyan COULD become a Time Lord. Anyway, the Time Lords are sort of ...rasist?... Against humans, so I don't think they'd allow her into the Council.

It's not impossible that this Woman is Ace, but unlikey.

I say she's Susan, and RTD is just messing with us saying she's the Doc's mother.

My personal take on the Ace story- just MHO here- was that she likely did end up at the Academy at some point as that was what the Doctor was grooming her for. But I can't see her becoming a Time Lady, in sense of agreeing to give up her humanity and have her biology altered to being the Doctor's race. I think both Ace and the Timelords would have balked there ... and even the Doctor would understand. But her visiting Gallifrey, taking some classes and then taking off on her own as an adult .. all seems very Ace like to me.

Since the series never actually went into looming, and has since then gone a great deal in towards establishing that Timelords marry and have kids and families, etc, the whole conversion thing is where I stop with the Ace storyline as at that point it wouldnt match up in the current universe. And I'd like to see Sophie Aldred revisit Ace, all grown up and full of her adventures and stories, rather than some mystery woman assigned to play her with no story told. Besides Ace may have had temporal influences and instincts, but she never went all 'seer' like, as Susan did from time to time.

Besides, I'm stuck on Susan for the seer woman. I just am <g>

I guess that's kind of what I was trying to say. Sure, it would make for a great surprise, but you'd think they'd make a big deal of it once they sprang it... Just a thought.