Rich Morris' Comics - YAFGC and The ComixBlog

I know this is a hook-up comic but the one I see coming has got my hackles up.

Okay... I'll bite. Why? Taidor's part satyr - it's what he does.

And what makes you characterize this is a hookup comic? As opposed to any other type of comic? I mean, if you tune in on a regular basis to find out who's sleeping with whom, you're going to be disappointed, since there doesn't seem to be much sex in this comic, overall. I pretty sure that most of the social circles that I've ever moved in have more sexual goings-on than one would get out of this strip on a day-to-day basis.

At first i thought she will devour him (either in a bad or a good way), then it occured to me that she probably had too little male attention since she moved on and so she could be quite an easy catch.

To Lyger: well, romance is a big part of YAFGC. Clover's storyline, the flagship couple, Arachne and Dewcup, Sid and Harald, even the jousting games all depended on hookups -sex included or excluded.

I just found it funny. Is that ok?


edit: once I got past Meegs' pert butt...

I didn't even notice the nakedness at first. Way to be observant, Lassarai.

It seems to me that to classify this as a specifically "hookup comic" you need quite a bit more than that going in. We've had entire story arcs where noone gets together.

Yep. No problem there.

For my part, this strip reminds me of the Capital One commercial set in Vegas, where the barbarians go charging through the lobby with a battering ram, and Garth walks up to the counter and asks innocently "Is Caesar home?" Cracks me up every time.

Well I guess that proves that YOU'RE not part satyr...

Considering that saytrs tend to be male....yeah...no.

They're entirely male, the females are nymphs.

Only Classical satyrs are monogendered, actually. Once you get to the 15th century, the motif of the satyress (or fauness) comes into the picture.

Whether or not that makes them "real" is an exercise that I leave to the reader.


I think that Taidor would hit that...

But it's fortunate that he doesn't look like this...


...or she'd be liable to hit him first.

Ahhh! Thank you Lyger. See, this is something that's bothered me for a long time. I've always been under the understanding that males=Satyr, females=Nymph. Apart from the odd piece painting or sculpture I've never been able to trace anything myth or legend that talks about FEMALE Satyrs.

When "Changeling:The Whateveritis" came out and suddenly female Satyrs were EVERYFRIGGINWHERE, I was going berserk.

I was able to find plenty of references to [Greek]Satyrs being only male. But FAUNS, that's different. In my (admittedly not too extensive) research, I'd never been able to find references to [Roman]FAUNS being male only.

So, for my own piece of mind, I made a distinction.

Do you have any more story behind this gendered creature thing? Or any links you can point me to?

Well, I'm kind of in the same boat that you're in, in that all of the references to Satyresses are artistic, and not legendary. (With the possible exception of the Roman goddess Fauna.) To the best of my knowledge, the Greeks would have been completely unfamiliar with the idea of a female Satyr (or one with hooves, see below). They don't start appearing until you get to Renaissance art and sculpture. My personal opinion is that while people in the Renaissance would have been familiar with the Satyress/Fauness as an artistic motif, they wouldn't have actually known of any legends about them. It's like the Enfield, a mixture of Fox, Lion, Eagle, Greyhound and Wolf (it looks a LOT simpler than it sounds). They exist as a heraldic motif, but are apparently found nowhere in legend.

However, all that said, it's worth keeping in mind that Satyrs didn't always have hooves... from what I understand Greek depictions of them were basically dwarves with tails - it was the Romans that mixed them with Fauns, resulting in two groups of creatures that became basically indistinguishable. I have a couple of my Mythology books lying around... I'll see what they have to say. (Too many sources can be a bad thing...)

Their use in gaming seems to be more a desire to make Satyrs and Fauns into distinct natural species. Swordbearer, for instance, includes both, and they're clearly male and female.

I know that that's the way it is in Greek mythology, but I wasn't sure if there had been females in art. I said "tend to be" to be on the safe side. Thanks, Lyger for the clarification.

I was just reffering to the comic, I remembered reading something BK wrote somewhere many months/years ago.

Romans did have female satyrs/fauns in a few places, mostly plays or people like Apuleius. Generally, they're kind of a mash up between satyrs, nymphs and harpies.

And like most anything the Romans come up with, very interested in sex. Particularly with the hero of the piece.

Crap. Damned auto-logout function. I had a pretty lengthy treatment of this set up, but the system logged me out before I submitted it, and it's (of course) unrecoverable. I'll see about reworking it later.

But to make a long story short, Nymphs aren't really the female form of Satyrs, what we now term a Satyr seems to really be the Roman Faun, there's some dispute over whether or not the Roman goddess Fauna was a "Fauness" and there were a number of nature spirits that were distilled down into just a couple of groups.