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 Post subject: 6.7 A Good Man Goes To War (**Spoilers**)
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:59 pm 
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Surprised no one has started this one yet.

What did everyone think of the big "revelation"?

Honestly, I kinda had it figured out already. The only water in the Forest is the River?

LOL

I was not impressed. The Doctor won the "battle" way too easily. And 2 of his "friends are from adventures we never saw! Why not bring in Captain Jack, or Jenny, the Doctor's Daughter? Naming the new character that was a big "let's mess with the fans" moment.

Ah well.

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 Post subject: Re: 6.7 A Good Man Goes To War (**Spoilers**)
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:09 pm 
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I didn't expect it. Since both Amy and River reacted to the Silence with pain, I thought both were pregnant. It made much more sense for me to have the child be River and the Doctors, if it could regenerate.

The whole idea that exposure to a time vortex causes a baby to have the ability to regenerate is ludicrous. Beyond silly sci fi show standards, and way below what I expect from Moff. He's a good writer who is known for having a strong sci-fi meter, he has the sense to write a story is clever and entertaining. RTD was a good writer too, but he seemed to think that clever was the opposite of entertaining and didn't like to use it if he could have big sfx instead. (His low sfx budget eps, like Midnight, were brilliant)

Next we'll learn that eating tomatoes causes us to grow seeds in our cells.

That all being said, I still really enjoyed the ep.

River not knowing Rory when she was among the Romans works because he was erased from time. Amy didn't know him either.

I loved the whole bit with the leaf having River Song on it for Melody Pond. The tardis tried to explain it to Rory (worried about her 'pretty one's fate?) in the Doctor's wife, that the only water in the forest is a river.

And now the Doctor is off to try and find poor Melody, whose being kept and experimented on by the Silence, as a weapon against him. I can imagine that the eye patch nanny has an image of the Silence under her patch, so she knows about them. That she needed to travel back to a time before humanity was ordered to start their war on them to get them to raise Melody. That the Silence are the perfect people to hide her as even the Doctor doesn't know they exist or that he started their downfall - and they can program Melody to assassinate whoever they want, and she wont remember why or easily stop herself.

And soon the Silence would be overthrown, so the pirate nanny wont have to worry about them interfering in her goals too much - and yet, the Silence must have been suspicious, to order Amy-G to reveal any plans her flesh self had been programmed not to tell, like that she was pregnant (what he must know and must not ever know).

Rory was fine in his centurion outfit, great in both his attitude and actions as he confronts everybody and is merciless in tracking down hs wife and child. And cries when he has them in his arms. And then that scene, in his soldier outfit, as he tries to comfort the Sontaran who found that dying in combat wasn't as much fun as he thought. Who tells Rory he's not a warrior, he's a nurse. I love those little poetic vignettes.

And while I always thought River killed the Doctor, when she killed a good man, the best man she ever knew, now I think she killed Rory. Which is really too bad - I'm quite fond of Rory. If she killed the Doctor then I wouldn't worry. He always turns up somehow. Rory ... I don't know if he can be so easily resurrected again, or if his daughter would be in prison willingly, if he were alive.

The teaser after the credits gives me hope tho.

As to why you were the first to put up the thread - well, it hasn't aired in NA yet. That's all. :frogwink:

As for it being too easy - that was the point. It was a trap to make him think he'd won, fool him with an easy victory. Pirate nanny made it easy, to taunt him about how simple it was to trick him. All so folks would say he'd risen higher than he'd ever been.

Now comes the fall.


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 Post subject: Re: 6.7 A Good Man Goes To War (**Spoilers**)
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:59 pm 
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I had hypothosized the connection before, but it all sounded too fan-fiction to me. But now that it's happened, I find myself liking it even more.

If Rory is the good man River kills, I'll be deeply saddened. He's my favorite companion so far. But then it would explain why he's been killed so many times and yet he keeps coming back. Maybe his death is a fixed point, and death won't take him until it's time for him.

I don't know if the Silence are behind Melody's kidnapping, however. I think Madame Kevorkian or whatever is an independent party. River explained it: she was kidnapped to become a weapon out of fear of the Doctor. The universe fears the Doctor, and so they figure that since he's a Time Lord, that means all Time Lords are dangerous. Ergo, they take a child who is part Time Lord and will fashion her into a weapon. The Doctor's reputation brought this about.

And what's wrong with bringing in new characters to "repay" the Doctor? How can anyone not like a Detective Silurian and her human assisstant? There is potential for a spin-off there!


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 Post subject: Re: 6.7 A Good Man Goes To War (**Spoilers**)
PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:45 pm 
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The Silence more or less can't be behind the kidnapping, which occurs in the far future, unless Silence from the future already have time travel, which doesn't jive with all the attempts at tardis building they have now.

The Silence were from the 1960s when they raised and programmed Melody, perhaps feeding her to the suit. It's the pirate nanny whose using them for her own goals. At least that's the only way I can make sense of the eye patch, she needs to see the Silence all the time so that she can remember them and use them.

If they have time travel in the future, I imagine they'd try to stop the order they gave that set humanity against them. As it is, that they don't have it, I imagine they are satisfied that they at least killed the Doctor in 2011, thinking their weapon worked.

I do think they were fascinated with the tech behind AmyG and kidnapped her to find out how she was made and if they could use it with the child they were programming.

Of course Pirate lady does enjoy taunting the Doctor, as this huge set up shows. I suppose kidnapping AmyG and letting her be rescued could have been a test run, but... I really don't think it worked that way. The Silence must have their own agenda and not be in complete agreement with what Pirate Lady plans, or at least not trust her.

Or maybe just the similarity in dna between Melody and AmyG attracted them, but we didn't see a Rory kidnapping scene as well, so it's hard to tell.

and hmm- a spin-off? Hehe - well, maybe a Torchwood flashback some day :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: 6.7 A Good Man Goes To War (**Spoilers**)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:17 am 
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I would have posted this thread, but my wife got behind on Doctor Who and I had to wait for her to catch up so we could watch the mid-season finale together. Still, I knew someone else could post the thread. Thank you, Jonathan.

It was an OK episode. Frankly, we could all see this coming from a mile off. I knew River was Melody, and when I saw the name "Melody Pond" at the beginning, that just clinched it.

Like a every first part of a Steven Moffat two-parter, it seemed rushed, but maybe not as much as the others. Maybe the Mof is starting to get a handle on pacing two-parters. The second half should be a good one and I can't wait to see it. I suspect the title, "Let's Kill Hitler" is something said to young Melody to get her to do it, since it sounds like something an adult would say to a child. Maybe Hitler's death is one of those fixed points in time.

Looking forward to Autumn.


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 Post subject: Re: 6.7 A Good Man Goes To War (**Spoilers**)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:13 am 
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Hmm... Didn't work for me. And I think I'll just leave it at that for now, except to say that I had difficulty with the idea that no-one thought to make sure that Amy or Melody were real. The idea that they would have only tried that trick once seemed a bit bogus. (Actually, I'm kind of surprised that they weren't sending wave upon wave of Gangers in.)

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 Post subject: Re: 6.7 A Good Man Goes To War (**Spoilers**)
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:48 pm 
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I agree they should have checked - but loads and loads of gangers would have given the game away.

Still thought it was a great ep with it's flaws. I'm very unhappy with the idea of the time vortex implanting time lord dna at the moment of conception, but I loved the character moments.


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