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 Post subject: Re: Paul McGann - The Fox Film - DID NOT SUCK: discuss:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:48 pm 
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For those who Twitter, there is a group rewatch planned for Twitter sharers at the #DWBarUSA, Friday the 29th at 7pm.

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Then come back here and join #DWBarUSA to watch Paul McGann's #DoctorWho TVM! Bar opens @ 6:45 and press play @ 7Pm ET via @TheDoctorWhoBar

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Friday in the #DWBarUSA it's the Doctor Who TV movie, hosted by @the_knights87. Open at 6:45pm EDT & press play at 7. That's FRIDAY!


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 Post subject: Re: Paul McGann - The Fox Film - DID NOT SUCK: discuss:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:51 am 
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As someone who has seen it, I enjoyed it. Yes, Eric Roberts didn't make a good Master (hell, I wish Christopher Lloyd played the part instead) but I think it was a pretty good film. Paul McGann is very underrated as the Eighth Doctor.

Just too bad Fox screwed it in the end because this particular Doctor had potential.


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 Post subject: Re: Paul McGann - The Fox Film - DID NOT SUCK: discuss:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:47 pm 
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I think Eric Roberts was fine as his own Master ... till the costume change, when there was no way he could take the part seriously with the directions he was given. (He described the experience as fun, but not what he could call acting. More like being a kid on playground type of experience.)

I missed the view in - I got a call from a friend that I'd offered to share my rented copy of Captain America, just at about 7pm, that now was the time he could watch it. I couldn't turn up his giant plasma tv offer <g>

I'll keep my eye out for the next one.


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 Post subject: Re: Paul McGann - The Fox Film - DID NOT SUCK: discuss:
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To me, it looked like he was bored or he wasn't sure whether to take it seriously or not. The costume change didn't help. I'm pretty sure Mr. Roberts was trying but it just didn't do it for me.

I really like the production design and the music I'd like to add.


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 Post subject: Re: Paul McGann - The Fox Film - DID NOT SUCK: discuss:
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In the making of video, he said you can't take it seriously, so that should be pretty clear. :mrgreen:

Basically, he's a good actor, but the director wanted the Master to be very silly and campy for the big finale, so that's what he did.


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 Post subject: Re: Paul McGann - The Fox Film - DID NOT SUCK: discuss:
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M'reen wrote:
In the making of video, he said you can't take it seriously, so that should be pretty clear. :mrgreen:

Basically, he's a good actor, but the director wanted the Master to be very silly and campy for the big finale, so that's what he did.


Then it's no doubt due to bad directing.


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 Post subject: Re: Paul McGann - The Fox Film - DID NOT SUCK: discuss:
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It's a pity, bcs otherwise, I thought the director did a good job. He cleared up a very messy script, only leaving in a few oddities, like the Doctor being half human and all, and then he just lost it at the finale ... well, maybe in his effort to translate the family show sensibilities he felt the campiness would outweigh all the death going on. I can't pretend that didn't happen in Doctor Who before then.

While I'm not sorry the half human was finally dropped with the 10.5 Doctor saying he and Donna were the first mixed ones (which actually doesnt jive with Susan marrying a human and having kids, but whatever), and I think they didn't need that line, it's true that the revived modern Doctor style did the exact same thing by suddenly having the Doctor the last of the time lords. They changed something that didn't need changing (the Time Lords as such could scarcely be bothered to appear in the show, and when they did, they were a healthy dose of reminding the Doctor that after all, he was just a hobo in space, for all his arrogance, and there were forces that could stop his ship in a heartbeat.) for the sake of adding something special to their particular production run.

Both changes were about giving the Doctor a reason to hang around Earth more, making it his unofficial home, and giving him that cosmic angst the lonely halfbreed/sole survivor, literally the only one of his kind, so that he could be more special than any other cosmic force out there, bcs they didn't have what he had.

And the story worked in the Last of the Time Lords, tho sometimes the angst was overdone. Maybe it would have worked, as the secret half breed, always saving the measly humans bcs he had their gift of .. indomitable spirit against the odds. Knowing his connection to Earth set him apart from his people, making him feel he never really belonged in one place or the other, and sending him drifting around the universe(s) because there was no real home to go back to.

Who knows. I'm not sorry it ended up back at the BBC, tho I'd dearly love to see more of Paul's Doctor. His audio adventures have been incredible.


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 Post subject: Re: Paul McGann - The Fox Film - DID NOT SUCK: discuss:
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I thought he did a god job too. The problem was, while his direction worked for the visuals and Paul McGann, it doesn't seem to work well with Eric Roberts.

The half-human, okay, I have questions about that but since it's no longer important, you could might as well say that aspect never happened.

But I still say the Eighth Doctor is the most underrated of all the Doctors I've seen.


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