If you think about it, when Lucas caught Flannet, he just added his own mass to the fall…Which makes it *harder* for Maran to safely slow the inertia & lessen the force of impact.
No it doesn't. He's effectively extra "crumple zone" that will cushion the fall more for Flannet than just one person would. Of course, this *does* make it harder on Maran, but she's also got regeneration.
It does. Collision, conservation of momentum – if the catcher is stationary and equal weight, it’ll halve the velocity at that point. (Neither of those assumptions will hold perfectly here, but it’ll be at least a partial slowdown.)
It will slow her, though not as much as one might hope. Simplify the picture with moving horizontally (frictionless surfaces, and all that jazz)
Person with mass m is moving at v velocity. They have a certain momentum energy. (momentum = mass times speed)
Stationary person B has no momentum because he’s not moving.
They combine.
The total momentum stays the same, but they have more mass now that they’re combined. The speed drops down
Toss gravity in, and things get trickier to actually calculate, but the same principle is still in play.
Hopefully he was moving upward some so some of his upward momentum canceled some of her downward momentum.
Mainly, though, I think he’s providing a cushion for her to land on.
Let’s call it six feet of cushion provided between the two werewolves. If she’s moving at 60 feet per second after a 100 foot fall, she’ll decelerate during a tenth of a second in that last six feet. That’s a deceleration of 600 feet per second. (20 G’s)
That’s actually very survivable IF it is a relatively smooth deceleration. People have survived car crashes at 180 G’s of deceleration. (most don’t, but some have)
In practice, the details will affect all sorts of things. (snapping bones, head impacts, etc)
Sometimes I find it sad, as differentiated here.
There are evil creatures… and evil creatures
Some are ‘dear’ evil ones like bob, arachne, the beholder king or lolth. And now flannet. They are allowed to live on.
Other ‘evil’ evil ones like niko have to die for ‘justice’ to prevail.
Well, I don’t think its always like that. For instance, Arachne is dead. And time to time the good guys die as well, like Taidor or Ajan. And the ‘evil’ evil ones can survive too. Karak and the bugbear king originally run off to the Goblin Lands, and Havrah also just walked away.
I *think* she’s finding a disparity between characters who die in what seems like a carriage of justice and some who are allowed to live seemingly just because I like them.
And she’s not wrong. I’m much more reluctant to off characters who I really enjoy or who are very useful to me. While others I’d be happy to write off simply because they’re not very interesting.
But ‘THAT bard’ did point out some of the places where I went against the grain of that pattern and I do make a conscious effort to not take the
easy or obvious way out, though I would be the last one to notice if I’d fallen into such a trap or not.
As he pointed out, Arachne has been a favorite for me and the readers for years, but she died (it’s a bit early on for people to be sure that she’s gone for good, but she is dead and I don’t have any forseeable plan to bring her back.). Glon on the other hand, lived. But he is a POV main character.
I think (I hope?) that more characters have died and stayed dead then have been conveniently resurrected. I site only Glon and Jone where I can remember this happening at all and in both cases it was an important story/character element.
Some of my villains have escaped or survived in some form to fight again another day: (Kourassa, Ranna, Jone, Whisper the Shadow Dragon, Lady Vivay of Pentine, Celena…) Others have been killed at the end of their arc: (Niko, the Gorgons, the Evil Sorcerer who was capturing Beholders…)
Similarly, heroes survive while others don’t make it. I try to be balanced and simply go with what the story calls for. But I’m willing to be called out if it seems I’ve misjudged it.
Seriously though, Mr. Izquxxisquid. I know he’s an incredibly minor character, but I like him for some random reason. He just vanished for ages, then suddenly pops in for a single page years later. And soon as I get hope that maybe he’s back, the mountain goes boom and I’ve no idea if he escaped.
Mr.Squid became problematic for me from a storytelling point of view. He sits in a sort of story niche that’s filled by other characters, especially while I was moving away somewhat from monster stories to adventure stories. He and the Illithid live far enough down below the mountain that there could be survivors.
Niko wasn’t evil because of her creature type. She was evil because she was a selfish, manipulative narcissist. Those traits might have been enhanced by her werewolf curse, but I would lay odds that she was a terrible person before she was ever bit. If not, then they’ve been part of Niko so long that no other "baseline" exists for her anymore.
Maran and Lucas suffer the same curse Niko did, and remain decent people. Many others, like Gren & Bob, Wolf & Nephilia, and the Bloodhands, are too complex to write off as simply good or bad. They’re capable of great nobility and self-sacrifice, and also of ruthless crimes. They stay in the story because they’re interesting, and because nobody claimed the universe was fair, not because the narrative gives them a free pass on their uglier acts.
And on a side note…Flannet evil? This is the woman who would have saved Muc if she could!
The question now is whether they can retain enough of their humanity to avoid thinking that they just caught some delicious morsel? The one thing that might help is the fact that now there is enough fresh meat- I mean, slain dark mistresses to feast upon.
What? This is a main theme of all werewolf tales. The power is also a curse, that results in the death of someone the afflicted lycanthrope holds dear.
So given Lucas bit her, Flannet will probably now become a werewolf. I doubt he managed to bite her that gently enough he didn’t break the skin, and it would hardly have been his top priority.
I realize you’ve already got this planned out & written, future plot points mapped and etc.
However. What a funny twist if a character (especially such as Flannet) were accidentally turned into a werewolf by one that was trying to save her.
I’m actually much more expecting, and greatly saddened, that Maran probably won’t survive. If she lives, all the more "yeah!" But, especially after your explanation of expired characters, the odds just don’t seem favorable.
Not sure how that is going to help, he didn’t really slow her down any by grabbing her, and while two werewolves are (probably) softer than the ground, I wouldn’t say they would be soft enough.
Definitely lots of pain to go around. But only two of the three can (currently) regenerate.
I would have to figure at, if she was accelerated and he was only starting to, the sum of both weights and her previous acceleration force, mm, ought to slow the curve down a bit at least. Obviously if it was higher than that to start they would just re accelerate faster, and if as some claim the catch could actually half her velocity or more depending on how much wolf-Lucas weighs, some of that half would be lost to final acceleration and then a deep fold zone a Maran tall and a Lucas thick… I think Flannet could make it! Most likely.
Ouch. The werewolves should survive, though they will be in pain. I just hope Flannet made it. Perhaps the castle healer is still alive and can lend a hand. I don’t think Lucas ever knew his own mother. He sort of considered Maula as one, but I think he was starting to really like the idea of having Flannet as his mother-in-law. Let us hope everything turns out okay. It will be interesting to see what the surrendered mistresses do during this distraction.
Flannet will survive, she has two healers that specialize at not letting their "patients" die too early, and don’t want to become the brownie for regenerated Maran…
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Ouch.
I agree. You sometimes forget that even characters with rapid healing or regeneration still feel pain.
I hope they broke Flannet’s fall enough–she certainly broke *them*.
I love Maran’s expression in the next to last panel. Like she’s thinking "uh-oh, maybe this wasn’t the best idea" or something like that.
"This is not going to be fun to regenerate from."
If you think about it, when Lucas caught Flannet, he just added his own mass to the fall…Which makes it *harder* for Maran to safely slow the inertia & lessen the force of impact.
No it doesn't. He's effectively extra "crumple zone" that will cushion the fall more for Flannet than just one person would. Of course, this *does* make it harder on Maran, but she's also got regeneration.
Rather reminiscent of Wile E. Coyote, when you think about it.
Not sure being caught mid air slows your descent but makes for a dramatic story
It looks like grabbed her and spun around (panel 7) so as to provide a cushion.
It does. Collision, conservation of momentum – if the catcher is stationary and equal weight, it’ll halve the velocity at that point. (Neither of those assumptions will hold perfectly here, but it’ll be at least a partial slowdown.)
It will slow her, though not as much as one might hope. Simplify the picture with moving horizontally (frictionless surfaces, and all that jazz)
Person with mass m is moving at v velocity. They have a certain momentum energy. (momentum = mass times speed)
Stationary person B has no momentum because he’s not moving.
They combine.
The total momentum stays the same, but they have more mass now that they’re combined. The speed drops down
Toss gravity in, and things get trickier to actually calculate, but the same principle is still in play.
Hopefully he was moving upward some so some of his upward momentum canceled some of her downward momentum.
Mainly, though, I think he’s providing a cushion for her to land on.
Let’s call it six feet of cushion provided between the two werewolves. If she’s moving at 60 feet per second after a 100 foot fall, she’ll decelerate during a tenth of a second in that last six feet. That’s a deceleration of 600 feet per second. (20 G’s)
That’s actually very survivable IF it is a relatively smooth deceleration. People have survived car crashes at 180 G’s of deceleration. (most don’t, but some have)
In practice, the details will affect all sorts of things. (snapping bones, head impacts, etc)
Somehow, I predicted every movement that would happen before panel 8.
Sometimes I find it sad, as differentiated here.
There are evil creatures… and evil creatures
Some are ‘dear’ evil ones like bob, arachne, the beholder king or lolth. And now flannet. They are allowed to live on.
Other ‘evil’ evil ones like niko have to die for ‘justice’ to prevail.
That’s really a pity.
Flannet is not Evil
Well, I don’t think its always like that. For instance, Arachne is dead. And time to time the good guys die as well, like Taidor or Ajan. And the ‘evil’ evil ones can survive too. Karak and the bugbear king originally run off to the Goblin Lands, and Havrah also just walked away.
Well… While she DID die, Miko might still be around as the new enforcer of the curse.
She’ll just be a wraith now. A werewolf wraith.
I would ask you to clarify the point you think you’re making, but I have a feeling I will regret being fully exposed to it.
t!
I *think* she’s finding a disparity between characters who die in what seems like a carriage of justice and some who are allowed to live seemingly just because I like them.
And she’s not wrong. I’m much more reluctant to off characters who I really enjoy or who are very useful to me. While others I’d be happy to write off simply because they’re not very interesting.
But ‘THAT bard’ did point out some of the places where I went against the grain of that pattern and I do make a conscious effort to not take the
easy or obvious way out, though I would be the last one to notice if I’d fallen into such a trap or not.
As he pointed out, Arachne has been a favorite for me and the readers for years, but she died (it’s a bit early on for people to be sure that she’s gone for good, but she is dead and I don’t have any forseeable plan to bring her back.). Glon on the other hand, lived. But he is a POV main character.
I think (I hope?) that more characters have died and stayed dead then have been conveniently resurrected. I site only Glon and Jone where I can remember this happening at all and in both cases it was an important story/character element.
Some of my villains have escaped or survived in some form to fight again another day: (Kourassa, Ranna, Jone, Whisper the Shadow Dragon, Lady Vivay of Pentine, Celena…) Others have been killed at the end of their arc: (Niko, the Gorgons, the Evil Sorcerer who was capturing Beholders…)
Similarly, heroes survive while others don’t make it. I try to be balanced and simply go with what the story calls for. But I’m willing to be called out if it seems I’ve misjudged it.
Seriously though, Mr. Izquxxisquid. I know he’s an incredibly minor character, but I like him for some random reason. He just vanished for ages, then suddenly pops in for a single page years later. And soon as I get hope that maybe he’s back, the mountain goes boom and I’ve no idea if he escaped.
(Yeah, barely anything to do with the thread…)
Mr.Squid became problematic for me from a storytelling point of view. He sits in a sort of story niche that’s filled by other characters, especially while I was moving away somewhat from monster stories to adventure stories. He and the Illithid live far enough down below the mountain that there could be survivors.
Niko wasn’t evil because of her creature type. She was evil because she was a selfish, manipulative narcissist. Those traits might have been enhanced by her werewolf curse, but I would lay odds that she was a terrible person before she was ever bit. If not, then they’ve been part of Niko so long that no other "baseline" exists for her anymore.
Maran and Lucas suffer the same curse Niko did, and remain decent people. Many others, like Gren & Bob, Wolf & Nephilia, and the Bloodhands, are too complex to write off as simply good or bad. They’re capable of great nobility and self-sacrifice, and also of ruthless crimes. They stay in the story because they’re interesting, and because nobody claimed the universe was fair, not because the narrative gives them a free pass on their uglier acts.
And on a side note…Flannet evil? This is the woman who would have saved Muc if she could!
The question now is whether they can retain enough of their humanity to avoid thinking that they just caught some delicious morsel? The one thing that might help is the fact that now there is enough fresh meat- I mean, slain dark mistresses to feast upon.
What? This is a main theme of all werewolf tales. The power is also a curse, that results in the death of someone the afflicted lycanthrope holds dear.
Snap?
Spines are vestigial anyway. As are ribs
So given Lucas bit her, Flannet will probably now become a werewolf. I doubt he managed to bite her that gently enough he didn’t break the skin, and it would hardly have been his top priority.
As Dave said, there was no biting involved. Though I totally see where it looked like there might have been.
I can also see it, but to me it always looked like cradling. I think it’s the eyes.
t!
I realize you’ve already got this planned out & written, future plot points mapped and etc.
However. What a funny twist if a character (especially such as Flannet) were accidentally turned into a werewolf by one that was trying to save her.
I’m actually much more expecting, and greatly saddened, that Maran probably won’t survive. If she lives, all the more "yeah!" But, especially after your explanation of expired characters, the odds just don’t seem favorable.
His mouth never opened, though I thought so at first too.
I don’t think Lucas did bite her, he just tucks his snout on top of her body to help give him some grip when he spins her around
Just because it won’t kill you, doesn’t mean it won’t hurt. #Ouch
Yeah and there’s definately a bruised squeedelyspooch in that pile.
Two flat dogs… two flat dogs
twoflatdogs
Well isn’t that cute…
BUT IT’S WRONG!
Squishy organs make the best impact cushion.
Also. Sing it with me because you know know you were thinking it:
Spider-wolf,
Spider-wolf,
Does whatever a spider-and-wolf can
Look out!
Here comes the Spider-wolf
Good boy, Lucas! Good girl, Maran! Extra treats for you!
You know… when you regenerate your jaws, throats and digestive tracts enough to enjoy the treats…
That’s still going to smart, I’m sure.
Not sure how that is going to help, he didn’t really slow her down any by grabbing her, and while two werewolves are (probably) softer than the ground, I wouldn’t say they would be soft enough.
Definitely lots of pain to go around. But only two of the three can (currently) regenerate.
It might actually work We’re not really sure how tall the tower was. Plush she had two wolves worth of organic crumple zone.
He might have killed half of the velocity by coming up from under her and then the cushion will help as well. Think of an airbag in a fall stunt.
What a great choice, to show Flannet’s underwear in these last two strips.
It makes her seem so… vulnerable.
t!
Maran will get lots of brownie points for putting herself on the line like that.
"Is it safe to turn them in for actual brownies, if I don’t eat chocolate in dog form?"
I would have to figure at, if she was accelerated and he was only starting to, the sum of both weights and her previous acceleration force, mm, ought to slow the curve down a bit at least. Obviously if it was higher than that to start they would just re accelerate faster, and if as some claim the catch could actually half her velocity or more depending on how much wolf-Lucas weighs, some of that half would be lost to final acceleration and then a deep fold zone a Maran tall and a Lucas thick… I think Flannet could make it! Most likely.
Way to utilize and test the were healing factor…
Ouch. The werewolves should survive, though they will be in pain. I just hope Flannet made it. Perhaps the castle healer is still alive and can lend a hand. I don’t think Lucas ever knew his own mother. He sort of considered Maula as one, but I think he was starting to really like the idea of having Flannet as his mother-in-law. Let us hope everything turns out okay. It will be interesting to see what the surrendered mistresses do during this distraction.
Apparently about half of those people who die during a long fall aren’t killed by the fall itself. They somehow die on the way down.
What? Where on earth do you get *that* idea?
Flat dog? Is that like a sail cat?
Flannet will survive, she has two healers that specialize at not letting their "patients" die too early, and don’t want to become the brownie for regenerated Maran…
The Baymax maneuver? Too bad those flat dogs aren’t inflatable.
…Did he accomplish anything aside from adding to the falling mass?
Yes, he gave her a cushion to land on. Two, including Maran as well.
Maron looks incredibly adorable in that second to last panel. Very good girl!!