Glamor’s actions are a classic narcissist response. She either wasn’t very smart, or her personality defects overwhelmed any intelligence she may have had.
"Hmm, there’s a perception among our people that I’m disloyal and colluding with enemies. I know! I’ll start executing and repressing them. Then they’ll know I’m really looking out for them!"
Of course she ended up dead of non-natural causes. It’s either that or she ends up depopulating her country as her list of enemies grows and grows due to her actions.
"Or the fact her daugther was lynched/murdered kinda made her abit mad….. a tinsie little bit mad"
Stefnos – Tantrums are for 5 year-olds. "I’m mad" is an inadequate rationale for a Jonestown-class mass suicide that takes you down and kills many of your supporters in the end. Or launches a career as Vlad the Impaler II.
"a teensie little bit mad" – I took that to mean "mad" in the "insane" meaning of the word.
Someone who was "driven mad" IRL (not the clinical term) can have sociopathic and psychopathic behavior without having the raving sort of behavior. Paranoia, lack of impulse control, emotional extremes, etc – seems to fit.
Joe, oh sweet naive "Rational Thinker" Joe, the flaw in your thinking is the assumption humans are rational actors. Emotions do not become some vestigial thing after you grow up. You can try and be above them, try to control them, but no matter what your emotions rule your logic. Not the other way around.
"Tantrums are for 5 year olds. "I’m mad" is an inadequate rationale for a yadda yadda yadda murder." However, you don’t seem to understand that generally speaking, most acts of violence are done under what you would call a "tantrum." French revolution? Massive tantrum. American revolution? Tantrum. A mother grieving the loss of one child in a society that is inherently violent towards them while still needing to protect the other and thus making steps in logic that seem to make sense in the moment, but after you’re taken out of the situation with the benefit of hindsight you see what you were doing was lunacy.
The comic simplified things a bit, but that’s because they assumed one would be able to empathize, but I guess that’s just too high of a bar for you, so let me explain the logical steps for you, in a manner you’d understand.
First: Firstborn child is killed, secondborn is returned to your hands, scared for her life. Now, losing a child especially young is generally accepted as one of the most traumatic losses somebody can go through, because you know, pack animal.
Second: You decide that you need to punish the criminals for the murder of a child who’s only crime was existing in the wrong place at the wrong time. Pretty reasonable, I’d say. While I don’t AGREE morally with the death penalty, if I was in this position, still mourning over my lost child, I’m pretty sure I’d want the murderers to die cruel and painful deaths, but execution by beheading seems like a second best.
Third: Unrest. Child still feels unsafe, mother still thinks her child is still unsafe, decides to crack down further on suspected crimes. Now we’re getting into the lunacy, and the part that makes this woman a "Tragic" villain.
Now then, the rest really hasn’t been SHOWN in the comic, yet. All I’m going to say is get off your emotionless rationale high horse, unless you want to admit that you aren’t really human.
Tl;dr, because I know you need this, Humans ain’t fucking robots. Emotion and sentiment affect our logic, it’s why you make shitty decisions when you’re angry, or sad.
As opposed to the Injustice Warriors who see discrimination against anyone who isn’t white, heterosexual, and male (and preferably wealthy) and work very hard to keep it that way? I have yet to see one of them that isn’t a ball venom and viciousness either (Donald Trump, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin, Alex Jones, the list goes on and on).
I don’t really think she is either. The majority of "SJW"s I have known have been well meaning dupes, who sincerely believe they are fighting for a form of justice by lashing out at whomever their demigogues point out to them as "oppressors", they are far too often too lazy to actually examine the situation; most of their leaders too, sincerely believe, on some level that they have correctly identified an enemy and any political clout they accrue is just a side effect of their righteous quest. If we have seen any stock stereotype "SJW"s in this strip, it would be poor Jone’s followers…the majority having an actual legitimate grudge against their gender roles, and Jone’s little sidekick/spokeswoman using that to manipulate them and gain power for herself! As "SJW"s all are fairly strong believers in "differing moral and intellectual capacities of the races", I can’t see one of their leaders bearing two "half-breed" love children…and loving them so tragically! Poor Glamor seems like person who actually saw people as individuals, first and foremost, making her the exact opposite of those who either believe or preach that caste or ethnicity is one’s single defining trait…she loved a man whom she saw as a fellow dreamer, willing to dedicate his life, like she was, to making a better, peaceful world for everyone, even if they didn’t share the same race or social class in society’s estimation of them; she saw her daughters as children she had created out of that love…their being "Orc"s would be far down the list of any descriptions Glamor gave of any of them! Her reaction is born out of the pain of losing a child!
It is rather bitterly ironic that both "sides", all too often, decide some individual must be a member of the opposing "side", due to superficial characteristics, when said individual’s actions seem to indicate that they judge people as individuals. Maybe the Captain is giving us a slanted view of events: the Queen could have viewed herself as "punching up" against subjects who refused to honor the "rightful place" of an "orc-lover" but as we are seeing, it looks like she is quite the opposite, she is lashing out, in pain, at those she sees as responsible for the murder of a child she loved, a murder committed, she understandably has assumed, by those who see race as assigning righteousness. The murderers were far more "SJW"-like, than the Queen!
I disagree. Usually SJW is something applied to people who, despite whatever are the real ratios or relationships among groups, wants to see representation of every social group in everything there is to be seen, pretending to live in perfect harmony.
Which was exactly the utopic dream of young Glamor. What sets an idealist apart from a SJW is the willingness to turn his or her back to reality, in favor of his/her vision; which is exactly what Glamor did. Trying to persuade their people and the rest of races to build a long-lasting peace was noble and idealistic. Refusing to acknowledge that orcs were not interested in the idea (with only a lonely exception, her lover), refusing to let their people fight back under constant aggresion… THAT’s the seal of a SJW "This doesn’t fit my vision, therefore I’ll pretend it’s not happening, as reality can only be as I want it to be"
SJW doesn’t really means anything apart from ‘person I disagree with and so I’m going to stick this insult on them so I don’t have to think up a proper argument’
I agree. Right Wing/Left Wing – both are insults these days. Humans have a tendency to overreact. If something is good, more of it seems better and an infinite amount must be perfection.
– Freedom of choice is good, so let’s abolish all government.
– Helping people is good, so let’s bury individuality in social programs.
As in all things, Balance is the key. Its the extremism that is the problem.
Mad Queenie here is going to be ressurected! Then she is going to run into Jon.
Then she’ll mistakenly think that Jon is her diseased daughter and hug her.
At first it seems like a good thing, the two adopting each other and we have a tender hug. But then they’ll send each other an evil smile and together go on a rampage to get revenge on EVERYTHING! And murder everything in their path!
Yes, Jone is alive. She’s a semi-deity at this point. One thing I think is pretty clear is that she has … at the LEAST … one major role to play out in YAFGC (and, probably several major & minor parts to come).
Less clear, but seemingly a probability, is that she will likely play a significant role in the eventual defeat/suppression of Ranna. Another speculative: The Orc god (Gruuumsh) has been consumed and is no more, very possibly is permanently no more. Jone may very well attain full deity-hood and step into his place.
That’s right. I noticed that I neglected to darken the bottom of Princess Sharc’s hair so it accidentally blended into Glamor’s dress when I muted the rough lines. These are the sorts of problems I create when I rush to upload things. That and all the spelling mistakes that I seem to have managed to avoid this time around.
WHEN the Himalayan peasant meets the he-bear in his pride,
He shouts to scare the monster, who will often turn aside.
But the she-bear thus accosted rends the peasant tooth and nail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
When Nag the basking cobra hears the careless foot of man,
He will sometimes wriggle sideways and avoid it if he can.
But his mate makes no such motion where she camps beside the trail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and Choctaws,
They prayed to be delivered from the vengeance of the squaws.
‘Twas the women, not the warriors, turned those stark enthusiasts pale.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
Man’s timid heart is bursting with the things he must not say,
For the Woman that God gave him isn’t his to give away;
But when hunter meets with husbands, each confirms the other’s tale—
The female of the species is more deadly than the male.
Man, a bear in most relations—worm and savage otherwise,—
Man propounds negotiations, Man accepts the compromise.
Very rarely will he squarely push the logic of a fact
To its ultimate conclusion in unmitigated act.
Fear, or foolishness, impels him, ere he lay the wicked low,
To concede some form of trial even to his fiercest foe.
Mirth obscene diverts his anger—Doubt and Pity oft perplex
Him in dealing with an issue—to the scandal of The Sex!
But the Woman that God gave him, every fibre of her frame
Proves her launched for one sole issue, armed and engined for the same;
And to serve that single issue, lest the generations fail,
The female of the species must be deadlier than the male.
She who faces Death by torture for each life beneath her breast
May not deal in doubt or pity—must not swerve for fact or jest.
These be purely male diversions—not in these her honour dwells—
She the Other Law we live by, is that Law and nothing else.
She can bring no more to living than the powers that make her great
As the Mother of the Infant and the Mistress of the Mate.
And when Babe and Man are lacking and she strides unclaimed to claim
Her right as femme (and baron), her equipment is the same.
She is wedded to convictions—in default of grosser ties;
Her contentions are her children, Heaven help him who denies!—
He will meet no suave discussion, but the instant, white-hot, wild,
Wakened female of the species warring as for spouse and child.
Unprovoked and awful charges—even so the she-bear fights,
Speech that drips, corrodes, and poisons—even so the cobra bites,
Scientific vivisection of one nerve till it is raw
And the victim writhes in anguish—like the Jesuit with the squaw!
So it comes that Man, the coward, when he gathers to confer
With his fellow-braves in council, dare not leave a place for her
Where, at war with Life and Conscience, he uplifts his erring hands
To some God of Abstract Justice—which no woman understands.
And Man knows it! Knows, moreover, that the Woman that God gave him
Must command but may not govern—shall enthral but not enslave him.
And She knows, because She warns him, and Her instincts never fail,
That the Female of Her Species is more deadly than the Male.
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They turned a peace loving queen into a tyrant…she went from loving human…to brutal orc…
When a Social Justice Warrior snaps and goes over to the Dark Side …
I lol’ed
3Xp4t: Goes over to?
Glamor’s actions are a classic narcissist response. She either wasn’t very smart, or her personality defects overwhelmed any intelligence she may have had.
"Hmm, there’s a perception among our people that I’m disloyal and colluding with enemies. I know! I’ll start executing and repressing them. Then they’ll know I’m really looking out for them!"
Of course she ended up dead of non-natural causes. It’s either that or she ends up depopulating her country as her list of enemies grows and grows due to her actions.
Or the fact her daugther was lynched/murdered kinda made her abit mad….. a tinsie little bit mad
"Or the fact her daugther was lynched/murdered kinda made her abit mad….. a tinsie little bit mad"
Stefnos – Tantrums are for 5 year-olds. "I’m mad" is an inadequate rationale for a Jonestown-class mass suicide that takes you down and kills many of your supporters in the end. Or launches a career as Vlad the Impaler II.
"a teensie little bit mad" – I took that to mean "mad" in the "insane" meaning of the word.
Someone who was "driven mad" IRL (not the clinical term) can have sociopathic and psychopathic behavior without having the raving sort of behavior. Paranoia, lack of impulse control, emotional extremes, etc – seems to fit.
Joe, oh sweet naive "Rational Thinker" Joe, the flaw in your thinking is the assumption humans are rational actors. Emotions do not become some vestigial thing after you grow up. You can try and be above them, try to control them, but no matter what your emotions rule your logic. Not the other way around.
"Tantrums are for 5 year olds. "I’m mad" is an inadequate rationale for a yadda yadda yadda murder." However, you don’t seem to understand that generally speaking, most acts of violence are done under what you would call a "tantrum." French revolution? Massive tantrum. American revolution? Tantrum. A mother grieving the loss of one child in a society that is inherently violent towards them while still needing to protect the other and thus making steps in logic that seem to make sense in the moment, but after you’re taken out of the situation with the benefit of hindsight you see what you were doing was lunacy.
The comic simplified things a bit, but that’s because they assumed one would be able to empathize, but I guess that’s just too high of a bar for you, so let me explain the logical steps for you, in a manner you’d understand.
First: Firstborn child is killed, secondborn is returned to your hands, scared for her life. Now, losing a child especially young is generally accepted as one of the most traumatic losses somebody can go through, because you know, pack animal.
Second: You decide that you need to punish the criminals for the murder of a child who’s only crime was existing in the wrong place at the wrong time. Pretty reasonable, I’d say. While I don’t AGREE morally with the death penalty, if I was in this position, still mourning over my lost child, I’m pretty sure I’d want the murderers to die cruel and painful deaths, but execution by beheading seems like a second best.
Third: Unrest. Child still feels unsafe, mother still thinks her child is still unsafe, decides to crack down further on suspected crimes. Now we’re getting into the lunacy, and the part that makes this woman a "Tragic" villain.
Now then, the rest really hasn’t been SHOWN in the comic, yet. All I’m going to say is get off your emotionless rationale high horse, unless you want to admit that you aren’t really human.
Tl;dr, because I know you need this, Humans ain’t fucking robots. Emotion and sentiment affect our logic, it’s why you make shitty decisions when you’re angry, or sad.
I think after this, if she falls down a stairs with own dagger in back it will be totally natural death.
No, it’s when a sincere hippie becomes a SJW. I have never met a SJW who was not a ball of venom and viciousness. (I have known quite a few, sadly.)
As opposed to the Injustice Warriors who see discrimination against anyone who isn’t white, heterosexual, and male (and preferably wealthy) and work very hard to keep it that way? I have yet to see one of them that isn’t a ball venom and viciousness either (Donald Trump, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin, Alex Jones, the list goes on and on).
I don’t really think she is either. The majority of "SJW"s I have known have been well meaning dupes, who sincerely believe they are fighting for a form of justice by lashing out at whomever their demigogues point out to them as "oppressors", they are far too often too lazy to actually examine the situation; most of their leaders too, sincerely believe, on some level that they have correctly identified an enemy and any political clout they accrue is just a side effect of their righteous quest. If we have seen any stock stereotype "SJW"s in this strip, it would be poor Jone’s followers…the majority having an actual legitimate grudge against their gender roles, and Jone’s little sidekick/spokeswoman using that to manipulate them and gain power for herself! As "SJW"s all are fairly strong believers in "differing moral and intellectual capacities of the races", I can’t see one of their leaders bearing two "half-breed" love children…and loving them so tragically! Poor Glamor seems like person who actually saw people as individuals, first and foremost, making her the exact opposite of those who either believe or preach that caste or ethnicity is one’s single defining trait…she loved a man whom she saw as a fellow dreamer, willing to dedicate his life, like she was, to making a better, peaceful world for everyone, even if they didn’t share the same race or social class in society’s estimation of them; she saw her daughters as children she had created out of that love…their being "Orc"s would be far down the list of any descriptions Glamor gave of any of them! Her reaction is born out of the pain of losing a child!
It is rather bitterly ironic that both "sides", all too often, decide some individual must be a member of the opposing "side", due to superficial characteristics, when said individual’s actions seem to indicate that they judge people as individuals. Maybe the Captain is giving us a slanted view of events: the Queen could have viewed herself as "punching up" against subjects who refused to honor the "rightful place" of an "orc-lover" but as we are seeing, it looks like she is quite the opposite, she is lashing out, in pain, at those she sees as responsible for the murder of a child she loved, a murder committed, she understandably has assumed, by those who see race as assigning righteousness. The murderers were far more "SJW"-like, than the Queen!
I disagree. Usually SJW is something applied to people who, despite whatever are the real ratios or relationships among groups, wants to see representation of every social group in everything there is to be seen, pretending to live in perfect harmony.
Which was exactly the utopic dream of young Glamor. What sets an idealist apart from a SJW is the willingness to turn his or her back to reality, in favor of his/her vision; which is exactly what Glamor did. Trying to persuade their people and the rest of races to build a long-lasting peace was noble and idealistic. Refusing to acknowledge that orcs were not interested in the idea (with only a lonely exception, her lover), refusing to let their people fight back under constant aggresion… THAT’s the seal of a SJW "This doesn’t fit my vision, therefore I’ll pretend it’s not happening, as reality can only be as I want it to be"
SJW doesn’t really means anything apart from ‘person I disagree with and so I’m going to stick this insult on them so I don’t have to think up a proper argument’
I kinda agree with Dave on this one.
I agree. Right Wing/Left Wing – both are insults these days. Humans have a tendency to overreact. If something is good, more of it seems better and an infinite amount must be perfection.
– Freedom of choice is good, so let’s abolish all government.
– Helping people is good, so let’s bury individuality in social programs.
As in all things, Balance is the key. Its the extremism that is the problem.
Never poke a sleeping bear….
(Chimera may be poked)
God, I love the way you phrased Panel Three.
t!
Thank you! I flailed about with the wording for that one. In fact, the rough version is almost totally different.
I’d love to see it. Can you send it to me?
t!
Sent! 🙂
Wait! GUYS! I think I know where this is going!
Mad Queenie here is going to be ressurected! Then she is going to run into Jon.
Then she’ll mistakenly think that Jon is her diseased daughter and hug her.
At first it seems like a good thing, the two adopting each other and we have a tender hug. But then they’ll send each other an evil smile and together go on a rampage to get revenge on EVERYTHING! And murder everything in their path!
That’s what is going ot happen isn’t it?
Depends on if what Glon heard is true. He said he had heard Glamor was run off into the Goblin Lands. If so, she’s probably not buried in Tempul.
Although the people she’s having executed probably are…we could have revenant vs revenant if Torvid’s group runs into them.
I have to wonder if Jone is still alive… and if so, just how many times the poor soul is going to die?
Yes, Jone is alive. She’s a semi-deity at this point. One thing I think is pretty clear is that she has … at the LEAST … one major role to play out in YAFGC (and, probably several major & minor parts to come).
Less clear, but seemingly a probability, is that she will likely play a significant role in the eventual defeat/suppression of Ranna. Another speculative: The Orc god (Gruuumsh) has been consumed and is no more, very possibly is permanently no more. Jone may very well attain full deity-hood and step into his place.
We have not seen the last of Jone.
I feel that Jone being related to Ranna’s granddaughter (via the Fox) might come into play eventually.
Hell hath no fury like a grieving mother.
Quiz:
How many people are there in panel 1?
Three. She is hugging her daughter to her, with hair that matches her own. That is why the princess is listed in the characters for this one.
That’s right. I noticed that I neglected to darken the bottom of Princess Sharc’s hair so it accidentally blended into Glamor’s dress when I muted the rough lines. These are the sorts of problems I create when I rush to upload things. That and all the spelling mistakes that I seem to have managed to avoid this time around.
I kinda enjoy testing my visual awareness. You know when you’re in a good mood and nothing can shake it.
The Female of the Species
WHEN the Himalayan peasant meets the he-bear in his pride,
He shouts to scare the monster, who will often turn aside.
But the she-bear thus accosted rends the peasant tooth and nail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
When Nag the basking cobra hears the careless foot of man,
He will sometimes wriggle sideways and avoid it if he can.
But his mate makes no such motion where she camps beside the trail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and Choctaws,
They prayed to be delivered from the vengeance of the squaws.
‘Twas the women, not the warriors, turned those stark enthusiasts pale.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
Man’s timid heart is bursting with the things he must not say,
For the Woman that God gave him isn’t his to give away;
But when hunter meets with husbands, each confirms the other’s tale—
The female of the species is more deadly than the male.
Man, a bear in most relations—worm and savage otherwise,—
Man propounds negotiations, Man accepts the compromise.
Very rarely will he squarely push the logic of a fact
To its ultimate conclusion in unmitigated act.
Fear, or foolishness, impels him, ere he lay the wicked low,
To concede some form of trial even to his fiercest foe.
Mirth obscene diverts his anger—Doubt and Pity oft perplex
Him in dealing with an issue—to the scandal of The Sex!
But the Woman that God gave him, every fibre of her frame
Proves her launched for one sole issue, armed and engined for the same;
And to serve that single issue, lest the generations fail,
The female of the species must be deadlier than the male.
She who faces Death by torture for each life beneath her breast
May not deal in doubt or pity—must not swerve for fact or jest.
These be purely male diversions—not in these her honour dwells—
She the Other Law we live by, is that Law and nothing else.
She can bring no more to living than the powers that make her great
As the Mother of the Infant and the Mistress of the Mate.
And when Babe and Man are lacking and she strides unclaimed to claim
Her right as femme (and baron), her equipment is the same.
She is wedded to convictions—in default of grosser ties;
Her contentions are her children, Heaven help him who denies!—
He will meet no suave discussion, but the instant, white-hot, wild,
Wakened female of the species warring as for spouse and child.
Unprovoked and awful charges—even so the she-bear fights,
Speech that drips, corrodes, and poisons—even so the cobra bites,
Scientific vivisection of one nerve till it is raw
And the victim writhes in anguish—like the Jesuit with the squaw!
So it comes that Man, the coward, when he gathers to confer
With his fellow-braves in council, dare not leave a place for her
Where, at war with Life and Conscience, he uplifts his erring hands
To some God of Abstract Justice—which no woman understands.
And Man knows it! Knows, moreover, that the Woman that God gave him
Must command but may not govern—shall enthral but not enslave him.
And She knows, because She warns him, and Her instincts never fail,
That the Female of Her Species is more deadly than the Male.
Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)
This would be excellent sung by Johnny Cash.
Would you settle for Julia Ecklar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVxZNFK9H4w
I keep feeling I’ve heard these words sung before but that version isn’t it.
And I’m not think of Female of the Species, by Space.
good song though…
Yeah, I like that song. It’s iconic and not much else sounds like it.
Hoping all is well, Rich!
Ditto…
Thirded. Know you’re busy, no worries, no pressure meant. Just hope all is well.
Fourthed!
Fifthed!
Fifthed?
Darn, too slow. Sixthed, then.
Better than quartered…
t!
You’d want a fifth if that was going to happen to you.
Seventhed. Next one will be a mouthful.
Eighted.
We didn’t start the fire.
It was always burning since the world’s been turning.
We didn’t start the fire….
Scratch that. This time we did start it and momma’s MAD!