Brother Yeecch takes his meals an hour or two after the regular meal is finished… down around the privies.
I grant you, no one wants to stick around and watch him eat THERE, either.
I think that’s the first time the word ‘shit’ has ever been used in this comic. I’m fine with (some) nudity, lurid situations, gore, violence…. but I’ve always been reluctant to put profanities in here, and I’m not entirely sure why.
I like it that way. I have seen a lot of moedern works using or using and censoring profanities. I understand that stories such South Park uses it because of its humor, but if not, I don’t see the need to add them. I don’t prefer the old times censorship, but I feel like we are losing those manners in the media.
I have thought about why I don’t like unnecesary profanities some time ago and my conclusion was that using profanities is less elegant. Profanities can have a lot of power, but using them casually makes them shallow. Besides, instead of a profanity (which is in some way a language reconstruction, something to not abuse in writing) you can put a character reacting, making another comment or doing something that has more impact in the scene
Interesting. I use them in real life all the time, but when I’m writing they really feel like a …. cop out? I see it as a bit of a challenge to see if I can capture the power of a profanity without actually using the profanity. I find CRAP is actually funnier in most situations.
And I find self sensoring… like writing the word and covering it in a scribble or the word BLEEP is really clumsy and hokey. Even worse is when people actually make the noise instead of saying the word. Either swear or don’t swear, but don’t say "BEEP" it’s embarrassingly hammy.
Makes sense. To me profanity is like adding spicy sauce or chile flakes to something. A little of it adds just enough of a kick and shock to really put the feelings through. Too much and it quickly overtakes. There’s nothing you couldn’t say without profanity just as strongly, but profanities help drive the point across.
When writing you naturally want your words to stand on their own. Using profanities freely only makes sense like something the character would say, or if the author’s voice has that personality. It works here, Cadugan is well educated and probably characters look down on people who say a bunch of swear words but have little meaning. But he just couldn’t contain himself from the joke.
I love the way swearing is used in In The Line Of Fire. For the first half of the film, the language is clean – there are still all kinds of nasty, eloquent insults, but no profanity – so when, during a really really bad moment, Eastwood says, "Fffuck," it *really* hits.
(unlike a recent movie I saw, which seemed to think that the solution to two weak scenes – one comedic, one dramatic – was to just crank up the F-bombs. perfect backfire: drew attention to how limp the scenes were)
Homicide:Life On The Street had to negotiate for every Swear Word. ("ass" was considered one!) So they had to work around it, sometimes just ramping up the viciousness of the language, other times using inflection – in those cases, you could tell what the actor and writers *really* thought the cop should be saying!
It’s funny, I rarely use any stronger language or ‘airplane fixin’ words’ than a muttered "dammit" at home and never have. I virtually never swear around my children, even today with both over 30, one pushing 40, but before I retired…five feet inside the door I was using ‘f**k’ like a comma.
There’s a time and a place and fantasy doesn’t lend to profanity, but in this case I see it as a joke on pronunciation, so it’s poking fun AT profanity.
I’m with you on fantasy not lending itself well to profanity. There was a second Abbott line, in Panel 2 before Cadugan’s line, which made it clearer this IS a joke at profanity. Thanks for catching that.
I would posit that the Otyugh are living sewage treatment plants, and that their output is a stable, valuable peat along with carbon dioxide. Methane is probably also used in their cellular processes as a fuel. Liquids could also be filtered to extract the maximum possible amount of nutrients from them.
Really, the only disgusting part of an Otyugh is that it is a walking, self-aware creature that performs a duty normally performed by bacteria. And that Otyugh found out early the benefits of scaring the shit out of other sophonts.
Interesting points all–and great puns too. I particularly like Fnordius’s dissertation and theorizing on otyugh biology. It’s like a section that was cut from one of those "Ecology Of…" monster articles in *Dragon* magazine. 😉 (Loved those.)
I agree with many of the posters that profanity should be used sparingly, like it’s a spice. A comparison I always used to personally make would be writing in dialect. It’s a tricky thing to manage without overdoing it…or verging into self-parody, and not everyone can do it.
For another example: many late 80’s-early 90’s English dubbed anime. Many were *so* desperate to be seen as "adult", it was like they had a quota on four-letter words to meet in their scripts…and the delivery most times never sounded natural.
Oh dear… 12 days and no update.. has Rich been swallowed whole and gobbled down by the work monster again? I really hope that’s all, cause eventually he’ll get spit out again.
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Sadly, no one will share a table with Brother Yeecch at mealtimes.
Mealtimes on his first few days were confusing for Brother Yeecch, as he was told to listen for the dinner gong… and it made a "Dung!" sound.
Brother Yeecch takes his meals an hour or two after the regular meal is finished… down around the privies.
I grant you, no one wants to stick around and watch him eat THERE, either.
1st time hearing Cadugan saying "no shit".:)
I think that’s the first time the word ‘shit’ has ever been used in this comic. I’m fine with (some) nudity, lurid situations, gore, violence…. but I’ve always been reluctant to put profanities in here, and I’m not entirely sure why.
I like it that way. I have seen a lot of moedern works using or using and censoring profanities. I understand that stories such South Park uses it because of its humor, but if not, I don’t see the need to add them. I don’t prefer the old times censorship, but I feel like we are losing those manners in the media.
I have thought about why I don’t like unnecesary profanities some time ago and my conclusion was that using profanities is less elegant. Profanities can have a lot of power, but using them casually makes them shallow. Besides, instead of a profanity (which is in some way a language reconstruction, something to not abuse in writing) you can put a character reacting, making another comment or doing something that has more impact in the scene
Interesting. I use them in real life all the time, but when I’m writing they really feel like a …. cop out? I see it as a bit of a challenge to see if I can capture the power of a profanity without actually using the profanity. I find CRAP is actually funnier in most situations.
And I find self sensoring… like writing the word and covering it in a scribble or the word BLEEP is really clumsy and hokey. Even worse is when people actually make the noise instead of saying the word. Either swear or don’t swear, but don’t say "BEEP" it’s embarrassingly hammy.
Makes sense. To me profanity is like adding spicy sauce or chile flakes to something. A little of it adds just enough of a kick and shock to really put the feelings through. Too much and it quickly overtakes. There’s nothing you couldn’t say without profanity just as strongly, but profanities help drive the point across.
When writing you naturally want your words to stand on their own. Using profanities freely only makes sense like something the character would say, or if the author’s voice has that personality. It works here, Cadugan is well educated and probably characters look down on people who say a bunch of swear words but have little meaning. But he just couldn’t contain himself from the joke.
I’m with all three of you on this one.
I love the way swearing is used in In The Line Of Fire. For the first half of the film, the language is clean – there are still all kinds of nasty, eloquent insults, but no profanity – so when, during a really really bad moment, Eastwood says, "Fffuck," it *really* hits.
(unlike a recent movie I saw, which seemed to think that the solution to two weak scenes – one comedic, one dramatic – was to just crank up the F-bombs. perfect backfire: drew attention to how limp the scenes were)
Homicide:Life On The Street had to negotiate for every Swear Word. ("ass" was considered one!) So they had to work around it, sometimes just ramping up the viciousness of the language, other times using inflection – in those cases, you could tell what the actor and writers *really* thought the cop should be saying!
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It’s funny, I rarely use any stronger language or ‘airplane fixin’ words’ than a muttered "dammit" at home and never have. I virtually never swear around my children, even today with both over 30, one pushing 40, but before I retired…five feet inside the door I was using ‘f**k’ like a comma.
There’s a time and a place and fantasy doesn’t lend to profanity, but in this case I see it as a joke on pronunciation, so it’s poking fun AT profanity.
I’m with you on fantasy not lending itself well to profanity. There was a second Abbott line, in Panel 2 before Cadugan’s line, which made it clearer this IS a joke at profanity. Thanks for catching that.
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Meant to say above that the Abbott line was lost due to technical difficulties. (yes, more than one)
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> I think that’s the first time the word ‘shit’ has ever been used in this comic.
So I am literally the person who beshitted YAFGC.
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For introducing an entirely gnu arena of puns, I take my shat off to you. Especially because you did so on poorpose.
Having watched the recent Extra History video, and the event in question taking place in a monastery…
Off, that was some messy business!
That’s such a cheap joke. Still funny, of course! 😀
I find most good jokes are extremely inexpensive!!!
:double_facepalm:
That one stank. It should have been flushed down the toilet.
This does bring to mind the question of what exactly do Otyugh poop.
I would posit that the Otyugh are living sewage treatment plants, and that their output is a stable, valuable peat along with carbon dioxide. Methane is probably also used in their cellular processes as a fuel. Liquids could also be filtered to extract the maximum possible amount of nutrients from them.
Really, the only disgusting part of an Otyugh is that it is a walking, self-aware creature that performs a duty normally performed by bacteria. And that Otyugh found out early the benefits of scaring the shit out of other sophonts.
I long ago mentally moved otyughs into the "Giant (ANIMAL)" category, just that instead of a Giant Fly or Giant Ant, they were Giant Microbes.
I – as my friends declared me – "a Boomer", feel perfectly fine here :-3
So…Brother Yeecch was particulary happy to help.
Does that make him a potential stool pigeon ?
I’ll be here all week, tip your artist, try the veal.
It’s veal good!
Ah the joys of crap puns
poop jokes aren’t my favourites but they’re definitely #2
Interesting points all–and great puns too. I particularly like Fnordius’s dissertation and theorizing on otyugh biology. It’s like a section that was cut from one of those "Ecology Of…" monster articles in *Dragon* magazine. 😉 (Loved those.)
I agree with many of the posters that profanity should be used sparingly, like it’s a spice. A comparison I always used to personally make would be writing in dialect. It’s a tricky thing to manage without overdoing it…or verging into self-parody, and not everyone can do it.
For another example: many late 80’s-early 90’s English dubbed anime. Many were *so* desperate to be seen as "adult", it was like they had a quota on four-letter words to meet in their scripts…and the delivery most times never sounded natural.
And for now, I must "scat". 😀
Oh dear… 12 days and no update.. has Rich been swallowed whole and gobbled down by the work monster again? I really hope that’s all, cause eventually he’ll get spit out again.
or maybe not ‘spit’….good thing we’ve got an Otyugh to catch him 😉