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 Post subject: Re: Video Game Desert
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:25 am 
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Thanks :). Now i really have to get Planescape Torment, but i wonder where to find it. Maybe E-Bay.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:54 pm 
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Hmm... that UnReal World looks interesting. Wonder if its anything like Harvest Moon?

Oh, and continuing on the topic of Morrowind and Oblivion. Besides the expansions, there are also the hundreds of mods out there. You can find mods for just about anything if you look for them.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:10 am 
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I have both Morrowind and Oblivion but i was put off by the huge world and the lack of a steady storyline. Baldur's Gate was perfect in combining a pretty large world where you could roam but not get lost and a linear but not too linear story. The Witcher had a great story but a small world... and i still cannot get Arcanum to run smoothly.

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 Post subject: Re: Video Game Desert
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:29 pm 
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Hmm... that UnReal World looks interesting. Wonder if its anything like Harvest Moon?

Oh, and continuing on the topic of Morrowind and Oblivion. Besides the expansions, there are also the hundreds of mods out there. You can find mods for just about anything if you look for them.


UnReal World sounds in premise similar to Harvest Moon, but the moment you begin playing it, you realize that it's very different. The downside to the game is the interface, EVERYTHING is done via a keyboard shortcut, there is an in-game key map you can use to refresh your memory on what's what, but like every single key seems to have a function so it takes a bit to get used to it. Fortunately the game is totally turn based, and it's very... slow paced, so it's good for people who really want to invest a lot of time into a game, but perhaps not the best for people who only have limited play-time.


To Morgana: The Elder Scrolls is definitely a non-linear game, and that does turn some people off, it kind of depends on how you play games, TES games are more focused on people who enjoy exploration and discovery, and roleplaying in the sense of making your own adventure. Baldur's Gate and it's kin are really good for getting you into the game world and keeping you along the main story, while still offering tons of diversions.

You might actually really like Nox, it's fairly short, maybe 20-30 hours at best, but it's pretty fun.

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 Post subject: Re: Video Game Desert
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Thanks :). Now i need to give eveyrthing a try.

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 Post subject: Re: Video Game Desert
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:44 am 
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If you liked Fallout 3 and Diablo, you might enjoy Borderlands. Its a Role-playing shooter, taking place on the planet Pandora. You play one of 4 characters, each with unique abilities and a set of talent trees, search for the legendary 'Vault', which is supposedly filled with richs, power, and whatever else you can dream of.

The game is rather large. I've spent several days, and have almost reached level 25 of 50, and I don't think I'm even halfway through the game. (For those who are also playing, just beat Mad Mel). It also has a bit of an MMO feel to it, including the abilitity to group with other players, either through a 2 player split screen, or with up to 3 other people online or over a LAN. Grouping with other people changes the level of the mobs, and the quality of the drops.

The gameplay is pretty solid. Inventory is extremely limited, especially at the beginning. Still, you can manage to carry around a decent set of guns to choose between. Ammo is rather plentiful, while cash, at least for me, is a commodity. Drops are similar to Diablo, especially in rarity color. Most of the difficulty comes not from the levels of the enemies, but by the sheer number of them.

The 4 classes each have a special ability, and 3 talent trees. I've currently been playing a Siren, who's special ability is Phasewalking. This allows her to go invisible, and does damage to nearby enemies when she enters/exits Phasewalking. Currently using an elemental mod to cause a sort of fire burst when I phasewalk, and have the talent to regenerate health while phasewalking. This allows me to regenerate almost half my health, while doing quite a decent amount of damage to those around me.

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 Post subject: Re: Video Game Desert
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:01 pm 
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Thanks! Haven't played Fallout though everyone is heartily recommending it. I have a feeling it will depress me too much...

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:33 pm 
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Morgana wrote:
Thanks! Haven't played Fallout though everyone is heartily recommending it. I have a feeling it will depress me too much...


Probably - Fallout 1 & 2 (not so much 3) are not happy, shiney games. Living in the word is short, brutish and nasty. Even the endings are not very "happy and cheerful". There are some funny moments to be sure, but on the whole the Fallout Earth does not feature widely on travel brochures.

But one very big one I liked is that they were some of the few games where your in game choices actualy did something 'past the game' before "choice and consequence" became industry buzzwords (and usually lame). Once you have finished the games you get still images and a VO what the effects of your choices in various places were...and they are not always obvious or 'nice'.

An example from F-1 (it was heavily modified for the final cut so spoilers wont count or be relevant in this case). You come across a wasteland town where the 'sherrif' is battling the 'evil crime lord'. Both as for your help in eliminating the other, both give you a bit of reward, so the choice is yours. Easy choice? Not quite - At the end of the game it describes what happened to the town based on your choice...

Side with the sherrif: You kill the crimelord and everything seems fine. However the sherrif starts in harsher laws against 'lawless criminals' until he makes Judge Dredd seem like a kitten. The becomes a place of pure terror as the slightest crimes gets you hanged.

Side With the Crimelord: The crimelord continues to run his casino and drug trade, but because his business depends on a prosperous town, he keeps crime low key and keeps freelance crims away. The town's economy booms and the population grows rapidly.

Kill both: The town is overrun by slavers as it lacks leaders to fight back

Walk away: The town slowly dies as the leaders fight each other draining resources. Raiders eventenually destroy what is left.

At first glance helping the brave sherrif seems the right thing to do against the drug dealing crook, but things never quite turn out how one thought. Which is a key part of the original Fallout series.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:06 am 
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Fallout 3 really isn't as gray when it comes to decisions. Its either obviously right, or obviously wrong. In fact, I think I've only come across one set of decisions that had me stumped on what to do.

During the virtual reality world that you enter to try and find your dad, you can either do what the creepy little child madman tells you to, or activate the failsafe/chinese invasion and kill everyone of the people stuck in it. Turns out thats the good choice...

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 Post subject: Re: Video Game Desert
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:20 am 
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Blackguard wrote:
Fallout 3 really isn't as gray when it comes to decisions. Its either obviously right, or obviously wrong.

True - but as Fallout 3 was made by Bethesda recycling the Oblivion engine it is not overy surprising. They seem to aim more towards crank out DLC's for a quick buck to the Lowest common denominator rather than make meaningful classics.

It can be fun, but - apart from graphics - it's nowhere near the first 2 games in story.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:16 pm 
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The Witcher had that too. One of the best aspects of the game, but still frustrating -no pointers and you would play a different game based on your choice. Even picking a love interest became instrumental in how the story ended.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:04 pm 
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Dear me. I can't belive I forgot this series. One of my favoirate game series, albiet I've only played the console versions and not the PC. Overlord and Overlord 2.

A wonderful and interesting series, where you are the evil Overlord of a fantasy world. You and your band of merry minions take on the forces of good. Did I mention that the script for the two games was written by Terry Pratchett's daughter?

My favoirate scene in the scene in the series would have to be from the first game, right before you start collecting maidens to stand around the tower.

Farmer: In order that we may appease you, we offer you our finest maiden.
Girl: I ain't no maiden! They don't call me Haystack Harriet for nothing.
Farmer: She's delusional, sire! Obviously in awe of your magnificent visage.

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 Post subject: Re: Video Game Desert
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:07 am 
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Dragon Age by Bioware (of Baldur's Gate fame) has just recently been released. I haven't played it yet, but it looks killer!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:16 pm 
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echo wrote:
Dragon Age by Bioware (of Baldur's Gate fame) has just recently been released. I haven't played it yet, but it looks killer!

I have been, so far it is fairly good (I'm taking my time with it, not power rushing) and some of the inter-party banter is hilarious (Viconia's tongue has nothing on Morrigan)...though it does have some problems.

By far the biggest problem is the 'manual' which comes with the game. It is totally bloody useless!.
It describes the screens, menus and buttons to press, but it has absolutely no information on how to actually do things or the underlying RPG engine. And the in-game help isn't better.

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Eg: I have 18 Willpower - what exactly does that mean? How much mana does it give me? How does it affect my skills? I have tier 2 melee - how is it better than tier 1? Does it boost my attacks? Does it do more damage? How is the freeze spell calculated? Whats the chance of freezing Mr Demon? Would I be better running away instead? Etc etc. You are flying blind as you choose stats, skills and spells groups.

Thankfully some people are putting together the mechanics in a wiki. Personally I suspect EA games (Biowares owners) and Prima Game Guides are busy getting off together somewhere on this.
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The other gripe so far is minor - they go waaaaay overboard on the blood splats. Sure having blood and goo on you after hacking at monsters with swords adds to ambience (chopping monsters to bits is messy) especially during pitched battles and cutscenes, but they have gone so over the top at times it is comical. Someone stabs himself in the hand and blood gushes everywhere like a firehose, stab someone with a dagger and its like you blew up a blood bank. Even more silly is the blood remains on you for a loooong time (unless you do something to get it off) - which can cause cutscenes to be...strange and amusing (Eg. A priest will talk about how their god is all loving and forgiving...while she is covered from head to toe in blood, or you talk to the local town guards blood all over your hands, face and clothing and they essentially say "Hi. Nice day isn't it?"). :shifty:

Otherwise it isn't too bad at the moment...but as I said I am barely 1/4 of the way through as I am just ambling around before getting back to the main plot.

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I am to receive it as a present and i cannot wait... i am looking forward to trying the different starts. Elves first, of course.

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